misfire Eley ammo

[terry knight]

Has anybody had misfires using Eley .22 lr with the BSA international rifle
?,it is ok with Lapua.
Regards Terry.

[Pierre Ambrosia]

Are we talking 1 in 10? 1 in 50 or what?

I shoot (among others)a Bonehill conversion with a date of 18xx on the
receiver. This old girl , if I don't cycle her properly, will misfire. Is
yours (forgive me iggorance) a Martini action? I know you should never
chamber a round which has failed to discharge but perhaps you've already
tried this?
My Bonehill needsto have the lever worked vigorously and firmly.



On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:13:08 -0000, terry knight

Post by terry knight
Has anybody had misfires using Eley .22 lr with the BSA international rifle
?,it is ok with Lapua.
Regards Terry.

[mlv]

Post by terry knight
Has anybody had misfires using Eley .22 lr with the BSA
international rifle? Is it ok with Lapua?

I don't know about Lapua (or the BSA International rifle), but the most
unreliable .22LR rimfire cartridge I have encountered is the Eley.

Eley 'no-bangs' we used to call them.

Mind you, this was back in the 1980s when I was using a BRNO rifle for
sporting purposes, rather than target. I'd have thought Eley would have
addressed the problem by now ;-)

I returned a faulty batch to Eley who replaced them and said the problem was
with the centrifugal primer distribution around the rim. I guess this was
true because I found that if I rotated an Eley 'no-bang' in the breech by
90° or so after it had misfired, it would then usually fire OK.

I changed to Winchester and they have never given me a problem.

Have you tried rotating a selection of your Eley misfires in the breech by
90° increments to see if they then fire OK? If they do, you probably have a
primer distribution problem (or Eley does!). If they don't fire, then check
your firing pin protrusion and give the breech face/headspace a good clean.

Does the firing pin indentation in the cartridge rim look adequate? Can you
try some of the Eley .22LRs from the same batch in another rifle?

[Tony Clayton]

Post by mlv

Post by terry knight
Has anybody had misfires using Eley .22 lr with the BSA
international rifle? Is it ok with Lapua?

I don't know about Lapua (or the BSA International rifle), but the most
unreliable .22LR rimfire cartridge I have encountered is the Eley.
Eley 'no-bangs' we used to call them.
Mind you, this was back in the 1980s when I was using a BRNO rifle for
sporting purposes, rather than target. I'd have thought Eley would have
addressed the problem by now ;-)

Very rare nowadays, in my experience.

Post by mlv
I returned a faulty batch to Eley who replaced them and said the problem was
with the centrifugal primer distribution around the rim. I guess this was
true because I found that if I rotated an Eley 'no-bang' in the breech by
90° or so after it had misfired, it would then usually fire OK.

This is not good practice, as there is a risk that the case can rupture
with the release of hot gas in an unexpected direction (I have had
such an incident with the firer to my left spraying the side of my face,
fortunately without injury)

Post by mlv
I changed to Winchester and they have never given me a problem.
Have you tried rotating a selection of your Eley misfires in the breech by
90° increments to see if they then fire OK? If they do, you probably have a
primer distribution problem (or Eley does!). If they don't fire, then check
your firing pin protrusion and give the breech face/headspace a good clean.

I suspect this is a much more likely cause with modern ammo.

Post by mlv
Does the firing pin indentation in the cartridge rim look adequate? Can you
try some of the Eley .22LRs from the same batch in another rifle?

[mlv]

Post by Tony Clayton

I returned a faulty batch (of .22LR cartridges) to Eley who
replaced them and said the problem was with the centrifugal
primer distribution around the rim. I guess this was true
because I found that if I rotated an Eley 'no-bang' in the breech
by 90° or so after it had misfired, it would then usually fire OK.

This is not good practice, as there is a risk that the case can rupture
with the release of hot gas in an unexpected direction (I have had
such an incident with the firer to my left spraying the side of my face,
fortunately without injury).

Once you have misfired cartridges with struck primers, you have a problem.
You have to do something with them to make them safe.

You can pull the heads and tip the powder out, but that procedure is not
without its own risks.

Personally, with .22 rimfires, I prefer to use a bolt-action rifle and load
the misfired bullet so that it is struck on a different part of the rim.
I've never had a problem or a ruptured case, and of course, the cartridge is
fully shrouded throughout the firing cycle by the breech, bolt and
bolt-housing. I can see how this procedure would be more risky with a
semi-auto, 'blow-back' action.

Mind you, it is always good practice not to have anyone stood near you when
you're clearing misfired .22LR cartridges ;-)